What manufactures 3D marketplaces like Thindonaterse and MyMiniFactory such a jolly experience for createers is the open access it donates them to the 3D printing community. Their 3D versions can be freely shared, customized, and 3D printed by all, which in turn assists to cultivate technology throughout this vast network of Makers. But, unfortunately, it in addition appears to leave these hard-working createers open to exploitation of folks appearing to monetize their freely on the market CAD versions. According to Michael Weinberg, of Public Knowledge, one Thindonaterse user, who goes by the name loubie, has brought this issue to light after discovering which over 2,000 versions (and their pictures) of Thindonaterse were being sold in 3D printed form by an eBay account named just3Dprint. This included loubie’s Aria The Dragon version at a lower place.

"Do CAD versions have rights too?"

“Do CAD versions have rights too?”

After loubie had asked just3Dprint to take down her versions of their eBay store, they responded by claiming which they had broken no copyright laws, and which they were not reselling CAD versions but “transformative adaptations” of them. “When you uploaded your items onto Thindonaterse for mass distribution, you lost all rights to them whatsoever,” they reportedly said in response to loubie. “They entered what is known in the legal world as ‘public domain’.” To bring attention to this issue, and assist manufacture other Thindonaterse createers aware which their CAD versions were being monetized on eBay, loubie uploaded her Sad Face create to Thindonaterse, along with her evidence aacquirest just3Dprint and their response to her allegations.

Here’s the entire response of just3Dprint:

“When you uploaded your items onto Thindonaterse for mass distribution, you lost all rights to them whatsoever. They entered what is known in the legal world as “public domain”. The single exemption to public domain rules are “original works of art”. No court in the USA has yet ruled a CAD version an original work or art. So, you have no right to exclude others of utilizing the CAD versions you have uploaded.

Furtheradditional, if in the next we do get a precedent in the USA for establishing CAD versions as “original works of art”, we may yet most likely be just satisfactory as we are not re-selling your CAD versions, but a fewhow “transformative” adaptions of them in the form of 3D printed objects.”


P.S. When you created these CAD files, did you quite want to limit the amount of folks who may enjoy them to the 0.01% of the USA with a 3D Printer? 100% of America can purchase the items of us at a reasonable cost and enjoy them-creating created in the USA jobs in the system as well. Furtheradditional, if you hate the thought of folks profiteering of your work, you may want to take it up with Makerbot/Stratasys who just hosts Thindonaterse for AD ractuallyue, to sell additional 3D printers.”


loubie’s Sad Face

As unethical as just3Dprint’s actions may seem, are they in fact illegal? They a fewhow don’t ponder so, but the story is acquireing traction and criticism is begining to create aacquirest just3Dprint. 3D printing legal tremendous Michael Weinberg does not buy their defensive response to loubie, and has gone on to defend her and all Thindonaterse users in general.

Michael Weinberg

Michael Weinberg

He claims which CAD files do indeed carry the mass of copyright and in addition says which Creative Commons (CC) licenses unquestionably apply to 3D versions. Perhaps actually additional importantly, he points to the Thindonaterse Terms of Use as proof which just3Dprint is most likely in the wrong. “The Thindonaterse Terms of Use are a fewhow clear (see section 3.2). By uploading a version to thindonaterse you are granting rights to Thindonaterse,”Feinberg said. “You are not granting any rights to third parties which are not thindonaterse, nor are you dedicating your version to the public domain.”

As it stands now, there does not seem to be adequate evidence or legal clarity to say if just3Dprint is illegally infringing on these 3D versions. Either way it does not seem right to me, actually additional so for the reason the eBay listings use the createer’s own pictures and don’t credit the Thindonaterse user at all (which you can see for by yourself by appearing at loubie’s Thindonaterse version and just3Dprint’s eBay listing of the same version side by side). For now, you can use the proposed evidence to decide if just3Dprint is in fact infringing or not, but whether it turns out to be technically legal or not, it yet leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

If this controversial story begins to acquire a few traction (and I have a feeling it can), we can be certain to store you updated!

Hat tip to Nils Hitze, of bq, for sharing this story with us.

Tyler Koslow

About The Author

Tyler Koslow is a Brooklyn-based writer for 3D Printing Industry, and has in addition generated content for publications and companies such as Dell, Brooklyn Magazine, and Equity Arcade. His content is focused on a wide range of topics which include tech, gaming, and music . Tyler is in addition a habitual instrument player, a writer of fiction, and generally all around fun haver. Tyler attained a Bachelor’s degree studying English-Creative Writing at the University of Central Florida in 2008.

  • Noah Hornberger

    I have had ebay remove my 3d versions by filling out the standard VERO form revealing which as the artist and create, I own the copyrights to the create. Once this has been properly filed, they are legally obligated to remove the content.

  • Don

    If the createer does not say non-commercial license is it ok to sell it on eBay etc? In addition one should in addition acknowledge who created it.

    • http://www.silberkind.de/ Nils Hitze

      Attribution .. it’s in the name of the license. If you link back to his Thindonaterse page and it’s not a NC it is ok.

  • Don

    I am new to 3d printing can you ask the the createer with a non-commercial license if you can sell their product?

    • http://www.silberkind.de/ Nils Hitze

      you can ask and he can donate you personally a various license. Did this, all well. You cannot just take his create and use it for sales. It in fact is this effortless.

  • http://www.edditive.com Edditive

    Let me begin by saying I’m surprised this hasn’t happened sooner. I’m an active createer on Thindonaterse, and manufacture certain I just share creates which I’m pleased to have ripped off, copied etc. (not which I want this to happen!) Similar to always, 99.9% of users are honest and assist uphold which values of an open community, but there’s always a fewone out to ruin it. Yes the versions are freely on the market, but does which donate a fewone the right to profit off 3D printing which version? In my book, no. Let’s appear at a much like scenario. Suppose I can jump onto a museum website and appear at a high resolution image of a Van Gough or da Vinci painting. Just for the reason I can access this for educational purposes, does this donate me the right to download it, print it on canvas and sell it? Of course not, the lawyers may be bashing down my door. I rest my case.

  • Rufat Zerger

    I ponder new service Treatstock can solve the problem of stolen versions. They say which 3D versions can be protected with a special cloud service which they use which practuallyts users and print services of downloading creates of createers. A print service can be provided with a one-time access to your 3D version during the print session and and so it can be discarded. It is presented like a mix of thindonaterse and 3d hubs